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NEWS FROM SCOTLAND Reports by Joe Murphy Neil Redmond writes: ‘Hi Joe, unfortunately I have been unable to forward our last two West Lothian Federation results for your column, Charnock Richards & Uttoxeter open, the reason for this being my birds have caught some type of virus and I have virtually spent the last two weeks attending to them. Regrettably my efforts and time spent administering medicines have not worked and to date I have lost 12 yearlings and 24 young birds so I just have not had the heart to do any reports. However, after reading this week's Joe Murphy Column and the way you portrayed our federation I need to get going again so hopefully I will get these results to you as soon as possible. If I may touch on this virus Joe, at this moment in time it would appear that 6 members within the federation all have the same problem with high mortality rate amongst yearlings and young birds. In all my years (50) of keeping and racing pigeons I have never witnessed anything like it, not even PMV. First signs are that the birds have not digested their food then watery droppings to very green slime droppings with small like pellet type deposits, no interest in food and want to drink large amounts water. From there on it is very much downhill; birds lose excessive body weight and generally are dead within 12 to 24 hours from the first signs. No matter what medicines are given nothing appears to work and this is common within the other five lofts. I myself have tried Strike, Orego Stim, White Sesqui, Amoxycare, Baytril, Ad Herb, Natural Yogurt, Osmond’s Electrolytes and I’m afraid all without any success Joe. At present West Lothian Federation are not racing and have birds away for testing but I do feel working with and seeing this virus first hand that we will hear more of it in the coming weeks. I will try and keep you up to date for your column should we receive definite feedback on what this is as the prelims have not come up with anything as such - yours Neil’. Well I wrote to Bilco regarding Neil and his fellow fanciers' predicament and Bill wrote back saying: ‘Sounds like Circovirus; if birds are dying it is not Young bird sickness. As far as I know there is no cure, but I had something similar some years ago and I used one teaspoon of Tiamutin 12.5% in the drinker every day for a week and this shifted it’. I have passed this onto Neil and let's hope it helps him out and this information may be of use to other fanciers who have similar problems. I am more than grateful for going out of your way to try and obtain help in this problem which is increasing as every day that passes I am almost certain that this is Circovirus as I was on Sunday when I e-mailed you and can assure you that I will today try and source this product that Bilco has used. My daughter Beth gave me Vet’s Tips for Fanciers book for Christmas and I have tried to contacted Dr Zsolt Talaber, editor of this excellent book, asking permission to quote from an article written by Pascal Lanneau on Circovirus and what is its influence on the vaccination against paramyxovirus on pages 87 to 90 in the book. Dr Lanneau wrote, ‘For a few years now, circovirus has represented a new threat to our young pigeons, less than a year old, especially those less than 4 months old, are highly susceptible to circovirus infection. Transmission; For the moment the mode of infection is not very clear, but the circovirus probably spreads through the droppings, perhaps also via food or water that is infected, or maybe through inhalation. Transmission via the egg is probably also possible; recent literature suggests the possibility of such transovarian spread, as the virus has been observed in newly hatched youngsters. Damage Once a pigeon is infected, the circovirus will especially attack those organs that are very important for building up resistance. (These are called the lymphoid organs, such as the thymus, the spleen, bone marrow, Bursa of Fabricius etc.) Because these organs are damaged, the pigeons are not capable of good, valuable resistance, even against the most common and ‘harmless’ infections, and it is possible that they will fail to build up any immunity’. Symptoms; Young pigeons in the nest that become infected will become thinner and perhaps die. Symptoms such as lethargy, no appetite, becoming thinner, diarrhoea, respiratory problems and decreasing performances are very common with this disease. Sometimes the feathers do not grow as they should but there are also plenty of infections that are without any signs. Diagnosis; Formerly it was only possible to diagnose this disease after an autopsy on a pigeon by means of a PCR test on internal organs such as the Bursa of Fabricius, but now it is also possible to have a PCR test done on the droppings of the pigeons. Treatment and Prevention; At this moment, it is not possible to cure or to attack the virus itself by means of any medication. On the other hand, in times of infection with circovirus, it is very important to treat secondary infections; these can be trichomoniasis, coccidiosis, paratyphoid, adenoviruses, fungi, etc. VACCINATIN IS NOT AVAILABLE AT THIS MOMENT Protection is difficult, and should focus especially on prevention, Prevention your young pigeons from having contact with the virus means being hygienic, and to this end it is very important to keep the new pigeons for a while in quarantine. Unfortunately, sometimes even strict hygienic measures and isolation cannot prevent this infection. Currently, circovirus is far too widespread, and according to European researchers, may be carried by hens symptom-free, and thus its transmission through the egg goes unnoticed in almost all instances. The circovirus is very stable in the environment, e.g. it can resist a temperature of even 75 C for 15 minutes. This means that disinfecting a loft against circovirus is a very hard job to do. All this is important for the paramyxo-vaccination; the virus will especially attack all those organs that are very important for building up good and strong immunity. If this immunity fails, pigeon can die due to some banal infection. But this also means that pigeons, after an infection with circovirus, cannot build up strong immunity after a vaccination!! Suppose you vaccinate you pigeons against paramyxovirus (PMV), but at that moment your pigeons are already infected with the circovirus. After the vaccination, the pigeons are not able to build up immunity as they should, because the organs that are responsible for this are damaged and do not work properly, not due to the vaccine or the method of vaccination, but because there was an infection with circovirus at that moment. To prevent all this it is much better to vaccinate young birds against paramyxovirus as soon as possible; this means when the youngsters are 3 weeks old (when the birds are weaned) In this way we can provide some immunity to PMV before the youngsters are exposed to circovirus. Experience has shown that pigeons which are vaccinated against paramyxovirus very early seem also to have a greater resistance e.g. to adenovirus’s There is of course no certainty you will not have any problems with all the other diseases, but we all see a very positive effect on the immunity of the pigeons if they have been vaccinated when they were very young. Vaccinating before three weeks of age is of NO use because during that period the youngsters receive maternal immunity from the parents (through the egg and crop milk) because you vaccinate at the age of 3 weeks, this means you cannot vaccinate at the same time against pox (nor with bivalent vaccines, paramyxo and pox). To build up much resistance against pox it is necessary that the pigeons be at least 6 weeks old.'
The above was written by Dr Pascal Lanneau from Belgium and I take no credit for any of the above, however I feel that this extract from this wonderful book will allow me to help my fellow fanciers who have this problem with their pigeons. It seems to me that once these people had vaccinated their youngsters the problems started. Neil Redmond wrote back saying, ‘Thanks Joe for your help, if there were more people like yourself within our sport we would be a very much a better organisation. I will let you know the outcome here in West Lothian Federation but I do strongly feel we are not alone. Thanks once again Joe, yours Neil’. SHU on Line "While talking to Linda Brooks, the SHU secretary, she informed me that they have the new type of transfer form on the SHU web site. Fanciers can now down load this form fill it in and add their email address and SHU loft number. Have the vendor sign the form as well as the new owner and send it back to the SHU offices along with their £1.50 transfer fee. If both fanciers are on email then no need to send stamps and Linda will forward the form back to the fanciers by email. This can then be kept in each fanciers own ‘Folder’ and they will have these transfers on file and can view them at the click of a button. It is the same with stray reports all strays can be reported via the web site. All you have to do is give the office your name; SHU Loft Number; and email address and Linda will add your details onto the data base. Do this either by post or by email to www.enquiries@shuonline.co.uk If you wish to download a transfer form or any of the other forms issued by the office just have a look at the documents on the SHU web site on www.shuonline.co.uk Apparently many of you have already provided your email details and Linda tells me that those already on her database will receive communications by email from now on unless they intimate otherwise. Please also remember that if you change you email address you must let the office know! To report any stray pigeons online (not only SHU's) please log on to the website on www.shuonline.co.uk where there is an easy to follow process to enter details into the Windows provided. This may suit those of you who can't ring the union during office hours. Also check out the photos sent in by members being harassed by sparrow hawks, we are still hopeful that Mike Russell, Environment Minister, will help us find a solution soon and discussions continue to this end. RESULTS Kennoway Homing Society news from Alex Wight who tells us that from the Leicester race the first of the Fife federation open races this turned out to be a very strange race indeed. The birds were liberated at 08:00:00 into no wind, and cleared within minutes it was a glorious day for the birds arriving home when they eventually did. Jock Scott who has his birds doing a fantastic job for him was 1st to time in at 14:18:18. His bird was Sweep (nicknamed because he kept on lifting the weekly sweep money) whois a Vandebeele bought from Red Star lofts along with its partner who is also doing well.You have already read about this bird in earlier races, and now he has done it when it matters most. Jock has claimed yet another 1st open federation which is a great achievement. Sweep is a 2 year old widowhood cock that has gained the following positions: Eastbourne 46th open 17th region in the national and also 8th open and 7th section Fife federation. From Maidstone he has won 77th open 2nd region and also 2nd open as well as 1st section in the Fife federation. He was 1st federation from Wakefield as a yearling and has had a club 2nd this year with many minor federation positions up till now. Henow tops it all off with a 1st open from Leicester all the club members would like to send our congratulations to Jock. Norrie Smith claimed 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 7th and 9th club, and was 2nd open toJock in the Federation he had a great race. The bird in second place was a 1/2 brother to his 2006 Maidstone 1st open Fife federationwinner which was crossed with a Mick McMurchie. This yearling cockis on the widowhood and has won a 1st club as a young bird, and was 2nd in the 3-bird club from Otterburn this year. Third position also goes to Norrie this time with a 2 year old widowhood cock which is a pure Mick McMurchie bloodlines, this bird has previously won 1st club and 3rd federation, once again Joe can we send our congratulations to Norrie on another successful race. There was a lot of scratching of heads about this race Joe on how it all unfolded with only a hand full of birds coming through early then a gap of about 20 minutes or so before the rest started to make an appearance before drying up again. (I would think that this leading batch caught up with some of the tail enders of a convoy liberated before the federation, with the bulk of the convoy arriving as you say Alex 20 minutes behind the winners) There were reports of quite a few empty perches on the night and not many birds returning on the Sunday, just hope they work their way home. On a personal note I maintained my 100% record with 3 out of 3 and done not too bad in the club as well, justglad to bepartof it all my thanks to Alex for his news and so promptly after the race well done to the Kennoway lads on topping the federation. Crossgates Pigeon Clubnews from the ever dependable Walker Kennedy who tells us that 11 members sent 159 birds to the federation Leicester open race. First past the post this week is Jock Hynd & son Ian who timed in a 2 year old schallie hen for a velocity of 1195, she is bred from there Wall, Lunt & Green family. The sire of this hen won 3rd federation Tow Law and he is bred down through ‘The Prince’, the dam has won 3rd & 5th federation and also 30th open Leicester, 6th open Maidstone and 6th open Eastbourne in the SNFC she is a grand daughter of the ‘Tame 21’ and ‘Grey Gem’. The partnership are second club on 1181 with a mealy hen from their Wall, Lunt & Green family the sire is grand son of Cammy and the Jewell; while the dam is a grand daughter of ‘Grey Gem’. Third place is race controller Mike Donnachie on 1167 he timed a 5 year old widowhood cock, this cock has topped the Fife federation twice before and has many other federation positions to his credit, he is bred from a John Ward Busschaert lines she has bred countless winners for mike. The sire is grand son of Dr Jeff Horn’s Charter Flight. Well Joe these three birds should be well in the open result as the saying goes ‘watch this space’ oh by the way David is going try and show me how to win a red card ha, ha. In closing Joe do you remember I emailed you last December with the Dunfermline & Crossgates inter club show with the proceeds £105. 00 to be flown for in the open Leicester race well Joe the result is 1st & 2nd Walker Kennedy winning velocity 1119 and £55.00 the second bird was doing 1096 and won £25.00. Third are the McAndrew & Dowpartnership with a velocity of 1075 winning £15.00 and 4th spot to Walker winning £10.00. Well Walker you can always buy David a pint from your winnings (who’s had the last laugh this time) many thanks to Walker for his weekly report. Glenrothes & Leslie IFC news from Maxi who tells us that 13 members sent 224 birds to Leicester with red card going to Stuart Redpath recording a velocity of 1195 with a yearling hen on widowhood bred from M McMurchie Van Loon stock and that is 3 x 1st in succession for Stuart so as you can see he is the man to beat at the moment this pigeon also wins the yearling derby winning £37.05. Second are the Maxwell Bethune & Lowe partnership doing1173 with a Van Reet hen bred by ourselves this hen won Otterburn last year and was 19th open Wakefield young bird also winning the Howe of Fife Gold Ring in this race she is 2nd in the yearling Derby and wins £22.23 Fife Federation of Homing Pigeon Societies with news from federation secretary Catherine Jarvis with the Leicester open race where 1436 pigeons competed. The winning velocities are as follows:- East section is won by Jocky Scott from Kennoway on 1217, one yard behind is club mate Norrie Smith with another on 1172.01;Third section is Austin Whittaker of Methilhaven club on 1213 and 1211. Centre section is won by Stuart Redpath of Glenrothes & Leslie on 1195 and another on 1161.Second section are the Maxwell, Bethune & Lowe partnership from Glenrothes & Leslie on 1173.22;Len Downie of Perth is 3rd section on 1156, with his mate Brian Kinnear of the Glenrothes & Leslie club recording a velocity of 1155.The West section is won by Jock Hynd & son Ian from Crossgates club with velocities of 1195 & 1181. Third is Mike Donnachie of the same club on 1167.17 with Bob Wilson of Newburgh club on 1165. David Kennedy of Dunfermline recorded a velocity of 1156; once again my thanks to Catherine for her result. Traprain result from Margaret Cunningham with news of the Peterborough race which is a distance to most lofts of 258 miles; we had 13 members sending 196 birds. The convoy were liberated at 06.30hrs into a light north west wind and in 1st place this week is A Thomson & Son; the Sinclair's timed a chequer Wildemeersch crossed Van Reet roundabout cock with a velocity of 1200. In 2nd place are Mr & Mrs Rab Ainslie who timed in a 2 year old Frank Sheader Soontjen widowhood cock with a velocity of 1196.1 In 3rd place was Angus Kenny who timed in a yearling Busschaert cock with a velocity of 1196.0; so you will see there was not much splitting these 2 birds Joe, once again my thanks to Margaret Cunningham for her contribution. Gilmerton HS news from Vikki and Ian who tell us this week’s race was from Peterborough - 12 members entered 90 birds taking 1st place are Mr & Mrs Bennett with a 4 year old blue bar cock recording a velocity of 1191; this blue cock is a really first class pigeon as he haswonnumerous races for example he won 1st club 10th federation Maidstone in 2006.Kate tells me Joe he is raced on widowhood and only seen his hen before marking and he is best at the distance and has won 5 x 1st cards up to now. He is another one of these fine Staf Van Reets bred down from Dean Pallet stock.The partnership are also 2nd club with a 3 year old widowhood mealy cock on 1187 he is again one of Kate & Martins Staf Van Reet family he has not actually won a race but he is very consistent pigeon.Third place goes to Gordon Verth with a 4 year old blue chequer cock on 1186; Joe this is another top class pigeon that Gordon has timed in on a number of occasions. He has won 1st x 1st club and 2nd federation from Leicester in 2007 and 2006. He topped the Midlothian federation from Newark and is raced widowhood he is bred from stock obtained from John Cook of Westerhope by Newcastle and is a Wildemeersch crossed Janssen; my thanks to Vikki and Ian for their weekly contribution. East of Scotland Federation news from Jamie Combe who starts off with the federation top 10 from last week race from Newark flown on the 24th of May; 1st & 3rd John Bird 1171 & 1142, in 2nd place is B Veitch on 1166 with T Hunnam in 4th place six yards ahead of T Thomson in 5th spot. Bobby Green is 6th & 8th with Grieve Brothers in 7th place. The Fowler & McIntyre partnership are 8th on 1125 with Elphinstone Tom McEwen in 10th spot on the same velocity of 1125. Moving onto the Peterborough race flown on Saturday 31st May taking the top honours again this week is John Bird who is 1st 2nd and 8th with velocities of 1188 1177 & 1122. Third and 9th is G Veitch with velocities of on 1173 with 1122, Ian Rowley is 4th with Grieve Bros in 5th place, the next two positions go to T Watt in 6th & 7th places last but not least is J Muir in 10th place. Prestonpans club news from Jamie who writes; ‘1st & 2nd club is John Bird with Ian Rowley in 3rd place. This was our first federation open race from Peterborough Joe and John Bird kept up his fantastic season with another 1st and 2nd club which translated to 1st and 2nd federation also. The winning pigeon is John's good 5 year old blue cock who has been a fine servant over the years. He is bred from a sister of Bits n Pieces and has won tickets in federation and national races previously including 18th open SNFC Newbury last season. He was in the first 3 of the federation earlier this season and it was no surprise to anyone in the club when he won this week. If anyone has a pigeon to beat him next week in SNFC Newbury they'll be taking a high position! John's 2nd placed bird was a yearling who has already featured in these reports having been 2nd club, 2nd federation beaten by a loft mate earlier this year at Thirsk, he is Soontjen bred from Frank Sheader stock. They way John is going it will be no surprise if this cock turns his second places intoa 1st in the next couple of weeks. In 3rd place was Ian Rowley timing another of his Janssen Van Den Bosch pigeons from Pathfinder Lofts stock and Ian won Selby a fortnight ago with another of these birds. I received a phone call from John Evans from Pathfinder Lofts who read about Ian in the Joe Murphy Column and he asked me for Ian’s phone number. I have contacted John Bird who has informed me that he will speak to Ian and get him to contact John regarding the breeding of these Janssen Van Den Bosch bloodlines, by the way John it was nice to talk to you and I will come up and introduce myself to you at your stand at Blackpool show next January. Well Joe that’s all for this week I'm away to try and dig one out to beat John Bird in the inland national next week cheer’s Pentland Hills federation and New Lothian RPC news from Andy Miller who writes; ‘The Pentland fed liberated from Peterborough on 31st May into a L/N wind. Approximate distances for the federation members range from 250 miles to 264 to the furthest flying lofts. This weeks winner of 1st & 2nd Sighthill H.S, 1st 2nd & 10th New Lothian (49 members sending 666 birds) and Federation is Andy Miller. First bird timed a yearling widowhood cock 12- 24, he has had every race this season including the midweek fed open race from Newark, winning a few club prizes along the way. Sire is a grand son of Flor Engels ‘231’ while the dam is a daughter of 1st open Amalgamation Leicester. The second bird timed 12. 23 is a yearling Staff Van Reet again a widowhood cock who was 6th club the previous week from Newark and is bred from my No One Van Reet stock pair. Third N/L and federation are the J & T Young partnership from Danderhall, with Woodburn’s P Forbes & Son in 4th place. Danderhall’s Rogers & Anderson are 5th followed by Mr & Mrs. Bennet from Gilmerton club, J Robertson from Craigmiller is 7th with J Lamb from Edinburgh West in 8th spot just ahead of Ian Summers of Sighthill. Sighthill RPC news from Andy who took the first two places in the club mentioned above. Third place and 9th New Lothian and federation are the consistent loft of G & I Summers who timed their 2 year old Janssen hen flying roundabout. The sire was purchased from Jeff Van Winkel and the dam a gift from former Kings Cup winners Gunn & Cherrie. Gifford HS news from Malcolm who sent in the Newark result flown on the 24th May where 7 members sent 91 birds, liberated at 06.30 hours into a north east wind. Taking 1st prize is Ben Veitchwith a velocity of 1166 also winning 2nd federation this 2 year old blue white flight cock was sent to the race flying spare, as his hen was lost at Selby the previous week.His dam is a Staf Van Reet from Dean Pallet stock, his sire is aBusschaert who has won a lot of prizes for Ben, interestingly he was bred from a straythat came into his Granddad's loft from Lanark that had belonged to Willie Kilgour the stray was a gay pied and Granddad did not want any stock fromhim soBen fell heir to the youngsters a good choice!.In 2nd place are Fowler & McIntyrewith a velocity of 1125they timed in a 3 year old blue bar white flight cock a Staff Van Reet crossed Rene Nauwelaert from Bremner& Hindle. He lost his hen at Selby and was sent looking at another hen, he has been the most consistent bird to the loft being a previous winner in two races as a matter of interest he was unraced as a late bred. He is also a delight to have in the loft as he is so tame and was the only bird sent to the race. In third place is G Veitchwith a velocity of 1124with a blue chequer cock given by Brian Paton of Kirkliston in a packof four. This yearling was sent to the race chasing his hen and he has flown every race to date this season; your Malcolm’ whom I thank for the report. Dundee Federationnews from Willie Donachie of the Leicester open race which had 46 members sending 578 birds; taking the first three places in the federation are the J & J Hunt partnership with J McBride in 4th and 9th places. The every consistent Beattie & Telfer are 5th & 7th with W Martin in 6th place and making up the top ten is J Duthie in 8th place and his good pal Andy Thomson in 10th spot. Lawhill Racing Pigeon Club news from Willie with the Result of the Leicester race 7 members sent 49 birds the race was sponsored by Mr Jim Donnet liberated at 08.20am into a light east wind, taking 1st place is Dunc McLeary who timed in a 2 year old blue cock flown on the widowhood system. This cock was purchased at the MacAuley & Ferguson clearance sale last year and was broken to the new loft location he flew Maidstone as a yearling and his dam was bred by Wilf Flockhart being a direct daughter of his Coal Neuk King. Dunc was also 5th Club with another MacAuley & Ferguson pigeon which lifts all the pool money. In 2nd place is Jake Brown with a 3 year old blue pied widowhood cock also flown on the widowhood system, this cock has won club and federation positions already this season he is a Busschaert crossed Vandevelde from John Crowder stock. In 3rd place is Bruce McKenzie with a yearling mealy cock flown on the widowhood system, this young cock wins the Yearling Cup for first yearling timed in and is bred from Bruce's family of pigeonsconcentrating on two good lines in his loft, being his 3rd & 4th Open SNFC my thanks to Willie for his contribution and we wish him well in his forthcoming wedding to Julie all the best mate. Balerno HS news from Colin Bain with two results as he was away for a wee break last week, from the Newark race 7 members entered 45 birds liberated at 06.30am into a light north east wind. Colin Ross takes the first two positions with the winner a Staff Van Reet on the roundabout doing 1184, the second bird again on roundabout was a Staff Van Reet Colin Bain crossed McGlynn brothers from the North West federation from R Toft breeding. Third club is I Jamieson however no details on this winner. From Peterborough the convoy were liberated at 06.30am into a light North West wind with 35 birds sent from the club. Again Colin Ross shows his worth as he is 1st & 2nd his winner is a 2 year old pied hen on roundabout from a grand daughter of Mr Carson’s 1st combine winner. The second bird timed is a grand son of the same combine winner crossed with Krauth crossed Bob Carruthers and it was also flying on the roundabout system. Colin Bain added When we checked the clocks Colin Ross was the only fancier with any birds home, so we do not have much more to write Joe except ‘lets hope it gets better’ yours Colin, my thanks to Colin for his news and it just goes to show fanciers the type of season we are experiencing just now. Lost Pigeons I have received a couple of phone calls with non fanciers reporting dead pigeons the first was Mr Roberts from Berwick on Tweed who used to race pigeons in Lesmahagow in Lanarkshire he found a dead bird which looked like a red pied ring number SU 07 A 5504 in what he thought was a peregrine nest as it had pieces of rabbit skin as well. If the owner of the pigeon would like to phone and thank Mr Roberts his number is 01289 330510. The second dead bird reported is going to be a bit of a puzzle to solve, David Peel from County Durham phoned with the details of a chequer hen SU 07 N????3 the ring had been squashed as the poor bird had been run over. This bird had a yellow rubber ring 5847 on its other leg and it also had a grey marker ring on the leg with the rubber on (no phone number just a plane marker ring) If anyone recognises this as their pigeon can they contact David on 0191 581 4629. My thanks to both gentlemen for taking the time to go out of there way to report these birds one of them went on the internet to obtain my phone number so speaks volumes that they tried to help out fanciers in this way. This week's Photos
The first picture is of Jock Scott who won the Fife federation open race from Leicester and the second is of my daughter Beth’s two children Niamh and Liam who are very keen on the young pigeon; you never know maybe Liam will be a pigeon man some day and continue in the tradition of the family. Kevin’s two boys are keen on the birds, all we need is one out of the three to take up the sport. This week's Joke A Wee Scottish Tale: A man is cupping his hand to scoop water from a Highland burn and a Gamekeeper shouts, 'Dinnae drink thon waater! It's foo ae coo's keech an' pish!' The man replies, 'My Good fellow, I'm English. Could you repeat that in English for me?' The keeper replies, 'I said, use two hands - you spill less that way!!! Please continue to keep the news flowing to Joe Murphy Mystical Rose Cottage 2 Flutorum Avenue Thornton by Kirkcaldy KY1 4BD or phone 01592 770331 after 7pm week days or my email address is joejmurphy@tiscali.co.uk Or log onto www.elimarpigeons.com or www.Pigeonportal.com and the newest pigeon forum in the United Kingdom www.pigeonglobe.co.uk for my up to date portfolio on pigeon topics from Scotland.
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