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Middlewich Top 3

By Les Parkinson.

For this weeks notes I am changing the format because one thing that I have been looking to do for some time is to compile a question and answers article on the top three prize winners in a club. The reason is to see how such a report would come out from a readers point of view and whether it is another way of reporting the winners for the future.

This is a run down on the top three in the Middlewich FC for the 2001 season and the answers are numbered as follows: Alan Groom -1, Mike O'Hare & Sons -2, Dave & Lynne Healey -3. As you read through you will see that not all answers have been answered for obvious reasons that will come to light as you read through.

Alan Groom & Pigeon Loft
Pigeon Lofts of Mike O'Hare & Sons
2. Lofts of Mike O'Hare & Sons
Pigeon Lofts of Dave & Lynne Healey
1. Alan Groom & Loft
3. Lofts of Dave & Lynne Healey

Q. Please introduce yourself and how did you get started in the sport?
1. Alan Groom, I first started with pigeons in the 50's and have raced them ever since.
2. I first flew pigeons as a school boy up until I got married to Rita when I left pigeons but as with many pigeon fanciers before me I came back in 1992. For the next three years I flew a good pigeon but then my work took me abroad so the pigeons went until I returned home and started once again in 1999. At the present moment I fly my pigeons under the name of Mike O'Hare & Sons but my son's have no interest whatsoever and I do look after the pigeons myself but Rita and my sons does help out if I am stuck.
3. Mr & Mrs D. Healey consists of David & Lynne who share all the work between them around the lofts.

Q. Give the readers the basic results that you have achieved as a partnership?
1. I have been the top prize winner in both the Middlewich FC & 5B clubs for the last few years
2. I am not going to go back to years ago but since I have restarted in 1999 I have been pleased with my performances. I have won many prizes at club and fed level including the Mid Cheshire Federation young bird average in 2000 and in 2001 I won the South West Cheshire Fed OB inland and OB combined ave's.
3. We have won trophies and prizes since starting in the sport in the 80's. My (David) father raced pigeons but when Lynne and myself got married we did not race. We started when a dark cock dropped into our garden and stayed with Lynne looking after him, everything snow balled from there.

Q. Amongst those results what are the real highlights?
1. My many 1st prizes in the Middlewich 2B plus 1st Three Counties Combine Sartilly against 13,947 birds and all the cups won, far better than the money.
2. I also like competing in the big races and have won 5th Bamfords Gold Ring race. 7th section MNFC Herstal and 5th section YB MNFC Guernsey 2001. These results have pleased me because we are only in our full second year back and the pigeons have shown good promise against tough opposition.
3. Winning the Middlewich 2.B. "Champion of Cheshire" when 174 members sent 345 birds. 5th Section 24th Open Le Ferte Bernard MNFC over 7,000 birds.

Q. What organisations do you race with?
1. The three Middlewich clubs which are the Flying Club, 5B (now has a 10 bird limit) and 2.B clubs.
2. Middlewich F.C. & 5B & 2B. MNFC, Cheshire 2B & North West and I do like to be able to compete and win in them all.
3. Our main clubs are the three at Middlewich being the Flying Club, 5.B (now 10), 2.B. MNFC and the North West Classic Club.

Q. Do you ever think about competing for averages?
1. Yes because the average's are a good indicator as to how well your loft has flown over a full season.
2. No I do not set out to win them but I do go out to win every race and any averages that I won are a consequence of that method.
3. Yes, if we are in with a chance it makes us try harder.

Q. How do you race your pigeons and how many?
1. I race a maximum of 32 widowhood cocks. In 2001 I started with 52 young birds in training and finished with 36 all had been to the coast 182mls.
2. I prefer to race the cocks only on the widowhood system and they usually total 27 in all. I breed approximately 100 young birds and end up with about 70-80 to race after they have been trained.
3. We have 24 cocks plus about 16 of their hens that are all raced on widowhood. Then there are about 40 young birds on the darkness system.

Q. What are your lofts made of and how big are they?
1. They are made of wood with the race team being 16ft x 8ft plus a small 6ft x 4ft for the 24 winter young birds, there is also a separate loft for the stock birds and another for the widowhood hens.
2. The main racing loft is 32ft long and constructed of timber and is the main racing loft of the late Denis Gleave so there have been many winners clocked in it. It has four sections, three for the cocks with the other being used for the widow hens. The young bird loft is also 32ft long with four sections, there is one for cocks and one for hens then later in the year the others used for pairing up in the longer young bird races.
3. They are made of marine plywood with a full polycarbonate front. The whole loft measures 32ft x 9ft split into 6 sections.

Q. Do you attach any importance to having a tiled roof on a loft, if so are there any benefits?
1. None at all, I have always been happy with the roof sloping from the back to the front which allows me to put a pen from the trap onto the roof for the young birds.
2. We have a tiled fascia for aesthetic reasons but a full tiled roof does have advantages in forms of loft heating from solar gains and as a component in overall loft ventilation.
3. We don't have a tiled roof and it probably doesn't make any difference anyway.

Q. How many stock birds do you keep and do you breed off your race team also how many pigeons do you think that you need to breed off any individual stock pair each year to see if they are quality producers?
1. Usually about 12prs of stock and each widowhood cock will rear at least one young bird prior to the season and one after to settle them back down.
2. I like to take one round from the widowhood cocks and at least three rounds from the stock birds. I have only been back in the sport for the last two and a half seasons I have a comparatively young team so I like to rotate the hens to try and find that elusive "Golden" breeding pair.
3. We have 6prs at stock which all fly out and we do breed off all the pigeons. But stop breeding youngsters at the beginning of March unless there is a good reason.

Q. When do you pair your pigeons?
1. All the stock are paired on the 10th December and the race team on the 10th January.
2. My aim is always to breed early in December and January so that I have a strong team of young birds for the bigger and longer races in August and September.
3. Both stock and racers are paired at the same time on the 10th January.

Q. Do you move the hens with the young birds?
1. Yes they are moved so that I can then start preparation's with the widowhood cocks.
2. The hens and young birds are moved at the same time when the youngsters are about 17 days old.
3. We do like to move the hens when the young birds are 14/16 days old and leave the young birds with the cocks.

Q. What criteria do you set down for the pigeons you winter with your thoughts on the following seasons racing and breeding?
1. If you want a winning loft you must look after your pigeons 365 days of the year, it is not just a summer hobby.
2. Nest box accommodation determines the number of birds wintered. The old cocks being replaced by younger cocks based on the last seasons racing performances.
3. Apart from the stock, if the racers are 2yrs old and not won a couple of prizes the!!!!!!

Q. Do you have any grills fitted in the floor or in the boxes, are there any advantages to using them?
1. No grills are fitted and I doubt if there is any advantage to having them fitted.
2. At the present moment I do not have any fitted but I do think that they are a good idea.
3. We used to use them when we boxed the hen's but now that we fly them we do not box them, we are altering the floor set up this season.

Q. What do you think about the vaccination programme for the pigeons and do you think it affects the pigeons long term?
1. I only use the Colombovac and I have never seen and ill effect through vaccinating the birds.
2. I suspect that it probably not necessary based on the low incidence of Paramyxo problems observed in feral populations. However it is the easy option for DEFRA and no research into it's long term effect is being carried out to my knowledge.
3. We have always flown under the vaccination policy so we know no different.

Q. Do you attach any importance to grits and minerals or can the pigeons get what they want they are out of the loft?
1. As a preference I always have fresh grit and minerals in front of the pigeons.
2. The appropriate grits and minerals need to be available in sufficient quantity especially during breeding and racing periods.
3. We have grit and minerals in front of the pigeons all the time and also a large lump of rock salt outside the loft, so if they want it then it is there.

Q. Do you use any floor dressing or do you clean the pigeons out daily?
1. A slight dressing of dry sand is used on the floors, box perches and nest boxes
2. I like to clean the race team out daily but not the stock birds.
3. We have no use for floor dressings because the only day of the year that they are not cleaned out is Christmas day.

Q. Do you like to have plenty of room for the pigeons?
1. Yes because they should not be overcrowded.
2. It is always a question of balancing the urge to retain stock against the fact that the birds undoubtedly benefit from having plenty of room.
3. One thing that we do like is two perches for every young bird.

Q. How do you feed the cocks and what do you feed them on?
1. I have bought my corn in bulk for nearly 30yrs and is all the Scheemaeckers brand. This is a once a year buy and I also buy the pickstones etc at the same time.
2. I use Bucktons Super widowhood mix from Davies Tropical's and a sprint mix passed on by one of the Counties leading flyer's, who shall remain nameless (but thanks George).
3. The cocks are fed in their boxes on good corn all the year round, Natural Concord and Versele-Laga Prestige mixed together is what we prefer. The hens and young birds are fed on the floor.

Q. Do you measure the amount that you give to each pigeon, or are they fed according to the individual pigeon?
1. Nothing is measured to the individual pigeon but I do feed them according to the time of year and the weather, this is one of those points where you must observe what is happening around the loft.
2. They are hopper fed at present but I do intend to revert to individual feeding for next season because I think that you can make the cocks tamer by using this system. I am also changing to tailor their feeding for their intended race programme.
3. Yes a 35mm filing box for each bird.

Q. Do you think loft position makes any difference i.e. Easterly or Westerly do you set any stall by the position and if so why?
1. My loft is slightly West of the bulk of members in my clubs and slightly North of most. Yes wind direction will always determine the winners.
2. I am the most westerly flyer in both Saturday clubs which is not an advantage and a fast trap is essential to stand any chance of winning.
3. The wind and the pull of the birds does determine most race results.

Q. Do you consider there to be any advantage having a racing partnership?
1. I have never been in a racing partnership but years ago when I was working and my wife Rhoda was in better health she used to do a lot with the pigeons.
2. To compete at the highest level is impractical for me to be able to put in the time required to be successful. I have had a lot of help during the last season by fellow club member Ron Woodward and we intend to form a partnership for the 2002 season.
3. Yes because this allows us to split the loft chores so that they do not become hard work and boring.

Q. Are there any points that you disagree on and if so how do you compromise a situation where there is a different viewpoint?
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2. With the new partnership we should in theory compliment one another because I am predominantly a sprint flyer but over the years Ron has been one of the top Channel flyers in the area. We are hoping that our individual skills will be complimentary to one another and this will give us a chance to compete competitively at all distances. At the present moment we have not experienced many points of disagreement and if we do we both share the view that it is only a sport and it is paramount that both of us enjoy what we are doing.
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Q. Do each of you have an area within the partnership where responsibilities take control regarding a decision?
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2. Not yet but we hope to develop the lofts along those lines in order to make the best use of our time and individual areas of expertise and inclinations.
3. I (David) look after the widowhood cocks and hens and Lynne looks after the young birds.

Q. To term a phrase are you a professional team of pigeon fanciers and do your circumstances make a big difference?
1. When I took early retirement in 1994 I was described as full time professional by a certain scribe (Les) but I don't consider myself as a professional.
2. We are probably just moving into the first division but we are aiming for the premier league.
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Q. Whenever I have visited a loft fanciers always look at the pigeons eye. Do you consider that the eye has any importance in (a) the breeding, (b) distance races (c) sprint races. (d) the pigeons health. Or do you steer clear of the subject and if so why?
1. I don't understand eye sign so cannot comment and I have yet to meet someone who is a top flyer who can explain it to me.
2. I studied eye sign very closely a few years ago and never went anywhere without the eye sign glass. I think that theory is a good indication of breeding potential but it was like looking for 1933 pennies (only 5 minted) so I have given up.
3. I find it hard enough to win a prize without getting into the eye sign theory. (Les) knows my opinion on that.

Q. Do you use any preventative medication?
1. Yes for Worms, Cocci and Canker and I like Harkers products but I do like to use a different firms products every three years to stop them getting immune to any one product.
2. Yes, as necessary and routinely for canker.
3. If the birds have had to drink in the basket I always treat for canker.

Q. How many weeks do you think a pigeon can maintain it's form on the widowhood system for both cocks and hens?
1. Depends on how hard the races, all season if the races are easy but about 8 races if racing is hard i.e. North East Winds.
2. I have not really had enough experience to determine this but I have a system of repairing each section of the widowhood cocks by rotation throughout the racing season.
3. Brian Beardmore once told me that a cock will race in top form for ¾ weeks, I think he is about right on that point.

Q. Does this include channel races or are the specified number of weeks for sprint races and do you think that a pigeon can be prepared at fortnightly intervals for the channel races?
1. Yes, they all have to be won.
2. I think that ideally two teams are required, one for sprint the other for the channel/distance and their feeding and race programmes tailored to match.
3. Yes.

Q. Do you think a pigeon has the capabilities of racing both short and long distance races. Also what distance can a pigeon actually still "RACE" as opposed to homing from any race point?
1. It all depends on the direction and strength of the wind.
2. I consider that pigeons are "Racing" during any one day race where a velocity recorded matches the predicted velocity taking into account the wind and race point.
3. Our "Box Cock" prized from every race point from Worcester to Rennes, his father from Nantes and his brother from Niort.

Q. What proportion of you pigeons get better on subsequent trips to the long distance races and what do you call distance?
1. Some birds get crafty and don't try if you hammer them too much distance over 400mls.
2. I have little experience of distance flying and do not feel qualified to offer a view on this topic.
3. I don't think they do, three years ago we had a cock who had finished2nd in the Middlewich 2B club from Niort and another that had finished 10sec 50th Open MNFC Saintes, we lost them both two years ago at Niort.

Q. Which is the more difficult, establishing a team of sprinter's or distance pigeons and why?
1. Don't really know.
2. I think that it is more a question of length of time and individual preference/objective than difficulty. It will take longer to establish a distance team since distance birds take longer to mature.
3. No difference because it is hard enough with the opposition to win any races.

Q. Sprinter or distance, there is no difference, it is all in the feeding?
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2. There is a difference between distance birds and sprint birds in general but there will always be exceptions. Linford Christie would never beat the Kenyon runners over the marathon distance no matter what he was fed.
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Q. Taking into account distance, which is more difficult racing to your area, is it a case of a 600ml race is a 600ml race regardless of competition or route?
1. I have never raced in a 600ml race so I can't comment, the clubs that I am a member of don't race to 600mls.
2. 600ml races will be difficult on practically every occasion doe to the demands on the pigeon and the unlikely scenario of a good line of flight, weather wise, over the complete course of the race.
3. We don't have any races anywhere near 600mls, 480mls is the farthest that we race in the clubs and not many send to those so we don't bother.

Q. What families of pigeons do you keep?
1. My present families now are the following, Busschaerts from Terry Edwards and Jane Aspin who bred the Three Counties winner. I also have the VDB from John Kirk and Bailey Bros of Rugley which are via Terry Edwards.
2. In essence a mixed bag of pigeons from tp fanciers consisting of the following lines. FVW-Jim Dutton & Frank Faulkner. Kellons/VDB-Mr & Mrs George Litherland. William Geerts-Tommy Shaw & Son. Houbens-Martin Mitchell. SVR-Dean Pallet. De Klak-Arnold Letzing, Germany.
3. FVW-Janssens---Busschaerts.

Q. How do you go about bringing in a new family and what do you look for?
1. Find an honest seller!
2. In general team performances have to be good combined with top competition taking into account loft position.
3. We don't buy a new family in, just the FVW, race them and breed off what's left.

Q. Early in the article we discussed the wind direction, do you consider that good pigeons will win in any position?
1. This all depends on the distance of the race.
2. As a generalisation they will not win in any position but unexpected weather conditions can throw up surprise results on isolated occasions. This applies particularly in the big races.
3. No, the wind and also when the bulk of pigeons are going normally where the winners are.

Q. Some fanciers go out and purchase good quality winning pigeons but never appear to make the grade, why do you consider that this happens?
1. One of two reason's or maybe both, they either do not put enough effort into the pigeons or they buy sub standard pigeons.
2. They lack the knowledge of commitment to condition the birds properly.
3. We don't bother about these fanciers, we have enough trouble ourselves to worry about them.

Q. Do you give any special treatments when the pigeons return from the race as a precaution against anything that they may have picked up in the basket?
1. No
2. No, none at all.
3. As we have stated we treat for Canker but we do have treatments in the cupboard for all kinds of ailments.

Q. Which of the two sexes do you consider is the most important when it comes to breeding?
1. I do not think that it matters.
2. One of each sex paired together usually gives the best results! But analysis of good pigeons over a long period of time would be necessary to consider this question i.e. have the good pigeons been produced from the mother or father of the loft.
3. Hens breed the good cocks therefore when I am out buying I do go for hens.

Q. Some fanciers like big hens for breeding does the size of the hen make any difference to the quality of youngsters that she breeds in your past experience?
1. No.
2. No, the best breeding hen during my previous spell in the sport (92-95) was a tiny George Bolle/Toye hen. My current best hen is a medium/large in size.
3. I like a hen that has won and if the rest of the family have all the better.

Q. Is there anything that you have not won in the sport that you would like to achieve?
1. No, only to keep on trying.
2. My main aim is to win a National race or at least the section and to beat Billy Glynn in the Middlewich 2B..
3. We always look forward to the next race and want to win that.

Q. Who do you consider to be the best fanciers in the Country and for what reasons?
1. Nationwide, Jim Biss, locally the late Denis Gleave but there are many good racing fanciers in Cheshire
2. Arthur Beardsmore who could condition a for a race and the pigeon would be there.
3. I have had the pleasure of knowing two great fanciers, the late Dennis Gleave of Middlewich and the late Dennis Burton of Stoke, both were great racing pigeon fanciers.

Q. What do you think can be done to take the sport forward?
1. Try to get all members to take an active part in running a club, I have been a clock setter since 1954 and a secretary since 1960.
2. Forward thinking by all fanciers and for them to accept that change is necessary in pigeon racing just as it is in most walks of life and organisations.
3. If we can take the greed and selfishness out at club level racing then I think that would improve the sport.

Q. Are there any special treatments that you give your birds once the season ha finished what do you recommend the readers to do with the birds?
1. No but you must continue to feed the best corn and look after them.
2. Feed a resting mixture once the moulting has finished coupled with rest and fresh air.
3. Feed them good corn and plenty of rest to complete their moult.

Q. When it comes to breeding do you line-breed or use a first cross or just pair winners to winners?
1. My preference is to pair winner to winner or winner to a daughter or sister to a winner.
2. I try all three methods but would line breed and cross the best of these it I had the patience.
3. Winners to winners and if they pair up as young birds and I like the pairing I leave them to get on with it.

Q. Do you breed off the top widowhood cocks after the racing has finished, do you breed late bred youngsters and what do you think of those later bred youngsters?
1. Yes one from each.
2. I think that late breds are useful if intended for stock purposes, but losses if attempting to race them makes the effort not worthwhile. As Tom Shaw advised a few years ago "The best yearlings will inevitably be from birds that have racing experience as young birds rather than late breds even if they are winter trained".
3. We don't have late breds for racing, we seem to have enough for the box space left after racing.

Q. If your race team went off form during the season what action would you take to restore their condition?
1. Don't know.
2. Rest and light feed them and probably a consultation with Lizzie Rigby if the condition looked serious.
3. We keep them in and feed them light and give them something.

Q. Is a favourable loft location the single biggest factor in sprint racing?
1. Yes the wind direction always matters plus of course the drag.
2. Yes if it is between fanciers of equal competence.
3. A good fancier in a good position will win races, a poor fancier in a good position will win nothing.

Q. Do you use the darkness system for the young birds, if so for how long and do you think it affects them later in life?
1. There is nothing new about the so called darkness system, 50yrs ago (I started racing in 1953) they were called winter young un's and no it does not affect them.
2. Yes from March to June. My best yearlings have invariably been my best young birds from the previous season.
3. Yes we do use the darkness system and they are all going on it for 2002, however an observation is that we now lose more yearlings than we used to do.

Q. Are there any feeding methods for the young birds i.e. do you break them down, do you keep them hungry for control purposes, do you give them a trapping seed mix?
1. The amount that I feed my young birds depends on the weather and time of the year etc plus how often they are trained. Also how they are flying around home and for how long.
2. Feeding is adjusted to the work/exercise expected of them but they are never broken down.
3. Lynne looks after the young birds and at the time of making these notes she is out concentrating on her second hobby shopping so I cannot answer that one.

Q. What percentage do you consider it takes to win with racing pigeons for Management and pigeons and why?
1. 80% pigeon 20% man.
2. 80% man.20% man, if a fancier changed
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Q. What is the farthest distance that you would train your old birds or young birds?
1. Being a none driver I have to rely on others, when Fred Hollinshead stopped training my birds Mick Glynn stepped in and has done a first class job on the young birds and I give him full credit for his work.
2. 40mls
3. I (Dave) get fed up when I have driven 25mls so that's about the distance I go and then they are taken to Crewe where they go on the local training transporter.

Q. If random drugs tests were carried out on your pigeons, would it reveal any substance, illegal or otherwise?
1. Not to my knowledge, I don't know what is in the products that I use for worms, cocci and canker treatments.
2. I do not know what can be found as a result of drugs testing but I would welcome it for the good of the sport. I have heard several allegations about drugs being used by fanciers and if they are they can only be detrimental to the sport.
3. We hope not.

Q. How do you consider that the British sport is going compared to the continentals and do they have any ideas that you think would benefit the sport in the UK?
1. I think that there are better birds in this Country, especially in Ireland when they race from France.
2. We have always lagged behind the continentals and we do not seem inclined to make the necessary changes. Their choice of pooling systems from 1 in 4 to 1 in 20 etc is the best method that I have seen to overcome positional advantage. Read, study and digest recent articles by John Clements.
3. I don't think they have because 75% of the continentals are in the sport to make money whereas there is only about 10% in the UK.

Q. Is pigeon racing as a hobby going beyond the average working man. Is it becoming too technical and complicated or can you keep everything simple and still win with the pigeons?
1. It's the working man with the money but no time and the pensioner with limited money but time on his hands. Most fanciers make life difficult for themselves by trying to be too technical.
2. The average man will never win on a regular basis regardless of whether he/she is working or wealthy. The more asset's at ones disposal the greater that persons potential to reach the top level.
3. It looks that way with not many fanciers appearing to work now and those who are working are unable to fly pigeons in some Federations.

Q. You are successful fanciers, there are far too many leaving the sport, to encourage fanciers to either join or stay in the sport what do you think about limiting prizes to two per race per loft. If not Why. If yes Why?
1. Put a limit on the number of entries per race and this includes MNFC and NFC (the same fanciers will still win) and try to level the playing field off a bit or even have two leagues in a club with a promotion system etc.
2. Yes I think that the rewards (prizes) in club races should be distributed as widely as possible throughout the members consistent with not appearing to be patronising. I think that prizes and pools need a complete rethink but the majority of fanciers are not inclined to change established practices.
3. We don't think that there is much you can do about this fact of life, if they are fed up with the sport they will just pack up.

Q. Do you think winning fanciers should move on from club racing once they have reached a certain level of consistency. Are club performances paramount for personal satisfaction or sales purposes?
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2. Club racing is the bread and butter of the sport and is the means of providing that weekly "Buzz" that fanciers look forward too. Top fanciers do not however sacrifice their chances of winning big races by bringing their birds to peak performances for club races. This is an observation since I cannot comment from the position of being a top fancier).
3. It's a hobby, some people like to win loads in their clubs and are not interested in going farther afield, anyway where else can you fly your pigeons where we live.

Q. Do you attach any real importance to the pigeons wing i.e. back wing, end four flights and do you look at the wing to see if they have cast before a race. Any other comments on the wing?
1. I never look at the wing unless to check that the wing stamp is alright.
2. I have not yet established a link between form and the state of the wing, but I suspect that this is a refinement which could improve my performance.
3. A lot of good fanciers tell us there is but we find a good pigeon has a good eye, good wing etc. so I go by the basket.

Q. Do you use any form of heating system in any of your lofts. Do you think it would be advantages for the birds?
1. None whatsoever.
2. Heat is necessary to produce form, especially in the early part of the season. The amount of heat depends on loft construction, ventilation, solar gain etc.
3. There is no electricity in our lofts at all.

Q. Do the pigeons need any special treatment on their return from the race to help them relax. Is any such treatment needed for the short or long distance races or the hard races compared to the easy races?
1. It all depends on how long and hard the race is, nothing will beat rest after a hard race.
2. I personally don't know but I am interested to know if anyone can provide factual evidence to either prove or disprove such a treatment.
3. We give glucose on most races but when it's hot electrolytes.

Q. Irrespective of how your pigeons have flown, what are your views on the past season whether good or bad or the management of the sport in general?
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2. The sport is suffering from an apparently terminal condition with the rate of outgoing members far exceeding incoming members and in need of a miracle cure. Could we send Peter Bryant to Lourdes. On a more practical level the sport should try for the maximum publicity from the media e.g. Tony Mardon offering a young bird from "Toey" of Louis Masserella a similar YB to the Children in Need appeal auction on the Terry Wogan Radio programme. I think that the general public will take a different view of the tatty old pigeon and when they realise the value of the bird's views might change. .(Toey paired to Bill Glynn's £1,000 hen would make a good pairing). This could then be bought by a syndicate and entered in the Sun City race or Middlewich Breeder Buyer to boost the auction proceeds.
3. One season like another it's a pleasure to see the birds come racing home from any race, if we win it's a bonus Lynne & myself race pigeons because we enjoy the hobby. Not to win vast fortunes and sell the birds at huge prices, it's our hobby and we treat everything about pigeons in that way.

Les.J.P. This has been an interesting article to compile and the views are varied, I hope that you have gained something from the answers. When I set out to do this article I was not sure how it would go but I am happy with the end result.